Navigating Grief and Storytelling in ‘To Dwell and Die and Dwell’: A Dialog with Skye P. Marshall and Qasim Basir


To Dwell and Die and Dwell is predicated on director and author Qasim Basir’s journey with grief. Filmmaker Muhammad (Amin Joseph), has to return house to Detroit after the loss of life of his stepfather. Whereas having to cope with his stepfather’s funeral preparations, he has to confront his personal experiences with despair and habit. He additionally meets Asia (Skye Marshall), a lady who simply needs to have enjoyable and dwell her life, inflicting him to query how he’s been dwelling his personal life. 

Black Woman Nerds is so grateful to talk with Skye Marshall and Qasim Basir about their expertise in making this movie.This interview has been edited for time and readability. 

BGN: Within the press launch, Qasim, you named that witnessing George Floyd’s loss of life through the pandemic was a part of the affect in the case of this movie. My query is concerning the intentionality behind that in addition to in the case of writing and directing; Skye, in the case of performing on a undertaking the place the pandemic is actual

Skye P. Marshall: I believe one among my first scenes taking part in Asia was an evening membership scene. To have the actual dancing vitality there was so infectious! And really helped my efficiency! He had all of our examined crew members surrounding me as background dancing and pointing their lights at me from their telephones.

Qasim Bashir: The lights went out.

SM: That’s proper! Isn’t that so inventive? “Level your flash at Skye so she could be lit.” The truth that he was in a position to maneuver within the second was butter for me. My scenes had been all outdoors after that. So I felt protected. I felt protected. I obtained to expertise Detroit for the primary time in her new renaissance glory. 

BGN: Qasim, what was it like for you, filming throughout that point?

QB: It was troublesome, the bodily nature of it. It was so much to cowl. These years, as Black of us, we pushed some issues down, in the way in which of simply accepting you may get pulled over and humiliated by an officer or one thing. Then simply go to highschool [or something] the following day like that by no means occurred. 

I had one small baby, one other child on the way in which, that was born by one among our producers [Samantha Basir] in the midst of capturing. All of that contributed to this, like…oof. That is that, that is life, that is artwork, all occurring proper now.  The story is about my stepfather who handed away and the week I got here to city. However since that occurred, whereas we had been in put up, my organic father died. My sister in legislation died. I misplaced two cousins. My uncle. We had been like, “What’s going on?” It was an intensely emotional time. I believe what loads of us do, we put it into the artwork.

SM: From the performer’s facet, I’ll say, my mind doesn’t know on a regular basis that I’m taking part in make-believe if I permit myself to make use of the appropriate imagery. If I can relate to any kind or trend to that stage of ache, that stage of betrayal or uncertainty — which I’ve skilled constantly — if I permit myself to hijack the character, my physique will actually begin responding. The truth that I’ve [people watching me], it’s within the carpool lane of therapeutic. By means of that honesty and vulnerability, my physique releases the toxicity of pent up feelings.

Grief won’t ever cease. Nobody actually teaches you easy methods to grieve. It’s straightforward for the psychological well being to interrupt if you don’t know what to do with all these emotions. Like within the movie, having to plan for a funeral, I simply had to do that for my brother. However I nonetheless must course of, I nonetheless must cry, however I gotta pay seven grand for this, and also you need me to pick a coffin and flowers? [Throws two middle fingers up] You may’t! 

BGN: Talking of grief and funerals, not solely does this movie do an awesome job of portraying the paperwork that always comes with loss of life, this is without doubt one of the only a few movies I’ve seen the portrayal of Muslim funerals and Muslim burial processes. What stands out to me is when Muhmmad says, “You want lower than three days to bury the physique.” However lower than twenty-four hours is most most well-liked for Muslim burials. Not solely are there boundaries in the case of Black Muslim life, there are boundaries in the case of Black Muslim loss of life. Qasim, it’s a recurring theme in your work finished so fantastically. Skye, I’m interested in your perspective taking part in Asia, who’s extra religious than non secular, as she has conversations with Muhammad. 

QB: It must be that everybody ought to be capable of inform their story. However that’s not the case. There’s a super imbalance in the way in which sure individuals have been portrayed. Some individuals haven’t been portrayed in any respect. Developing in a group that’s amongst that group that basically by no means had a voice on display screen, I really feel a accountability in direction of of us. 

What extra may you wish to do than spotlight [your community] and make them really feel like they’ve a voice too? The extra nuance we talk about by these characters, the extra steadiness we will have on this world. 

SM: Amen…Can I put money into your subsequent undertaking please?

See Additionally


[Everyone laughs joyfully]

SM: [Qasim], your work is so intentional. And that’s what I wish to be part of. I’m joyful to play the white woman’s finest good friend in all of those reveals that I’ve finished. However I’ve nice inventive groups that permit me to nonetheless be a powerful character. Not simply stare on the white gaze. I wish to increase precisely what you’re talking about. That was probably the most lovely funeral scenes I’ve ever seen [in To Live and Die and Live]. The mom within the white, and the siblings! Ah! The music, the washing of [the stepfather’s body]. It was simply phenomenal work. 

BGN: What makes the intimate moments between Muhammad and Asia so vital? Asia says, “I don’t want a health care provider telling me I solely have one or two months to dwell. I’m simply gonna dwell.”

SM: The quote that you simply simply acknowledged, I dwell by that, previous to receiving Asia and after capturing [as] Asia. The work I used to be in a position to do with Amin Joseph in that scene within the resort room, within the window, that was probably the most lovely, strongest scenes I ever finished as an actor. We had been simply so free! That may be a present. 

[Qasim’s writing] makes the characters so sensible, even within the midst of tragedy. To be so sensible and so misplaced on the identical time. I believe that’s what makes the chemistry so lovely. We each had this wall, and we each discovered the crack within the fortress wall. 

QB: She talks concerning the screenplay, but it surely doesn’t matter in the event you don’t have performances like these. 

To Dwell and Die and Dwell is presently taking part in in theaters.

Maya Williams (ey/em, they/them, & she/her) is a author primarily based in Portland, ME. Maya has contributed to areas comparable to The Tempest, Black Youth Undertaking, RaceBaitr, The Homosexual Gaze, and extra.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *