Leah Feiger: Effectively, I imply, as a result of the safer choice. That is the richest man on this planet and the President of the USA. I want to consider that there’s thought behind any of this.
Zoë Schiffer: 100%.
Leah Feiger: And that is precisely what a bunch of those conspiracy theorists have been saying over the past 24 hours. Senior reporter, David Gilbert, revealed a narrative in the present day about how the complete conspiracy world thinks that the Musk-Trump breakup is a PSYOP, it is 5D chess. It is messy, messy, messy. We’re speaking posts of individuals simply being like, “No, no, no, that is their plan. It is all to go the Democrats into publishing the Epstein recordsdata absolutely.” It is type of wild to behold, actually, however I believe we’re about to see a little bit of a fissure in Republican politics actually for the primary time in about eight months, 9 months, they’ve had a superb run.
Zoë Schiffer: Okay, I really feel like we have to take a couple of steps again and simply speak about how did we get right here?
Leah Feiger: Is their relationship nonetheless helpful to the opposite? Elon Musk continues to be the richest man on this planet, and as irritated as Trump could also be proper now, they’ve a variety of very nonetheless shared vested pursuits. Musk has a variety of contracts with the US authorities that he most likely would not need to threat. They’ve some Qatari pursuits. There’s a variety of enterprise there, however this invoice looks as if it is turning into a sticking level. We’ll should see.
Zoë Schiffer: Proper. And I really feel wish to that time, considered one of Musk’s major, a minimum of public grievances about it, is that it provides to the debt deficit, but additionally one of many provisions within the invoice is that it reduces electrical car credit. Clearly, this is a matter for Elon Musk and Tesla. So how a lot of that do you suppose is impacting his views right here?
Leah Feiger: Once more, I can not get absolutely into his head, however as a lot as Elon Musk has been like, “Cut back the deficit, scale back the deficit, that is the objective of DOGE, we’ll minimize $2 million,” that do not even actually exist in US federal spending. So by way of reducing the deficit, it is laborious for me to really ascribe his motivations there. Does he care? I am not 100% satisfied. Does he care about Tesla? Completely, and also you’re precisely on the cash with the EV credit score. I imply, I believe it was one thing final yr, Tesla had spent a minimum of 1 / 4 of 1,000,000 {dollars} lobbying on behalf of the electrical car tax credit score that will get minimize on this invoice. And that is some huge cash, that is a variety of time. Musk additionally was reportedly doing a variety of advocating for the credit score behind the scenes, and so I may very a lot see this sort of being a bit of little bit of a, “Screw you. I did all of this for you, I requested for this one actually massive factor, and you continue to have it in there anyhow.” And such as you stated concerning the egos, I may actually see it in so some ways coming all the way down to that, and I’ve to say, as a result of this has additionally been occurring, clearly issues haven’t been tremendous easy crusing for Musk with the White Home 100% of the time for the previous few months, and the opposite factor that is come up in the previous few days, which has come up earlier than, is Musk has actually favored selecting folks which can be taking sure authorities positions. A few days in the past, it was over the weekend, I consider, this man named Jared Isaacman, who is that this Musk ally, was nominated for NASA administrator, and Trump has eliminated that. And Musk has run into these points with Scott Bessent, secretary of the Treasury, with Sean Duffy from transportation. And so it is laborious to say precisely what the one factor is, however all of this collectively, the EV tax credit, the not with the ability to really say who’s going to be in cost, I may see this being very a lot not gratifying for him, let’s simply say.