- A YouTuber has been outlining some compelling theories on RX 9070 efficiency versus the RTX 5070
- This theorizing is predicated on purported inside AMD benchmarks for the RX 9070, and serviette maths for RTX 5070 body charges
- If it pans out, the RX 9070 XT might simply beat the RTX 5070 Ti, and even come inside 10% of the RTX 5080
AMD’s RX 9070 fashions might handily outgun Nvidia’s mid-range RTX 5070 Ti and 5070 graphics playing cards, if a thought of prediction from a YouTuber pans out.
That is common rumor peddler Moore’s Regulation is Useless (MLID), who in his newest video (embedded beneath) engages in some serviette maths to work out the place the efficiency of the RTX 5070 and 5070 Ti GPUs are more likely to weigh in (extra on the intricacies therein shortly). The YouTuber then compares that to inside benchmarks purportedly carried out by AMD a month in the past with its RX 9070 fashions.
The upshot is that this: going by these inside assessments from AMD – add skepticism with all this, that means the benchmarks, and likewise MLID’s personal theories – Group Crimson was focusing on a slight win for the RX 9070 XT over the RTX 4080 Founders Version (to the tune of three% or so).
MLID then took that stage of estimated efficiency and overlaid it on a graph of benchmarks (a 17-game common) from {Hardware} Unboxed that features the RTX 5080. From this, we see that in idea, the RX 9070 XT is inside 10% of the RTX 5080 for rasterized (non-ray tracing) efficiency at 4K decision.
On prime of that, the YouTuber added within the talked about serviette maths approximations of RTX 5070 efficiency, which is that the vanilla RTX 5070 is more likely to are available at about 20% sooner than Nvidia’s RTX 4070 (so within the ballpark of the RTX 4070 Ti). And that the RTX 5070 Ti is more likely to be a fairly minor generational uplift, and perhaps solely barely sooner than the RTX 4070 Ti Tremendous.
Granted, that provides in a great deal of uncertainty, and ifs-and-buts, although it’s based mostly on sound sufficient reasoning. (Particularly the uplifts we’ve seen for the RTX 5090 and 5080, on common – a robust taste of the architectural beneficial properties for Blackwell, in different phrases – after which the relative specs of the brand new RTX 5070 fashions versus their predecessors).
RTX 5070 efficiency could not pan out like this, but when it roughly does, MLID theorizes that the RX 9070 XT (based mostly on these inside AMD benchmarks) might probably be 15% sooner than the RTX 5070 Ti. And that the RX 9070 versus the RTX 5070 might see a win for AMD, too, extra to the tune of 10%, however nonetheless, a marked victory.
Evaluation: Efficiency means little with out worth
Proper, so is AMD set to personal the GPU mid-range this yr? Nicely, as I’ve already stated a few instances – however it bears one other point out simply to underline – plenty of that is up within the air theorizing, albeit workings-out that make sense to me. MLID lays some heavy caveats on all this himself, though the YouTuber does assert that he’s assured sufficient in these predictions on the entire.
We must always keep in mind that the graphs used (from {Hardware} Unboxed) are simply straight rasterized efficiency. Though MLID additionally notes he’s assured AMD has virtually caught as much as Nvidia with ray tracing on this technology, however one other main piece of the puzzle is DLSS 4 and Group Inexperienced’s new body technology. The latter MFG function, and different enhancements in DLSS 4, are literally big – and that shouldn’t be underestimated. We don’t but know the way FSR 4, AMD’s rival next-gen tech, will shake out, and so that continues to be a reasonably weighty query mark right here.
One other important level right here is that it’s all very properly analyzing (potential) relative efficiency ranges in a theoretical train like this, however even when this proves appropriate as to the comparative body charges we’ll get from the RX 9070 versus RTX 5070 fashions, there’s AMD’s pricing to think about. We all know the tough worth proposition of the RTX 5070 flavors as we’ve got the MSRPs, however we don’t with the RDNA 4 graphics playing cards.
My fear, then, is that AMD will probably be calculating the place to pitch RX 9070 asking costs based mostly on the Nvidia RTX 5070 critiques once they arrive in February (properly, if Group Inexperienced sticks to its promised launch timeframe for these mid-range graphics playing cards). It’s actually been rumored that AMD remains to be very a lot weighing up pricing, and the query then turns into: how a lot does Group Crimson wish to take Nvidia down within the mid-range house?
If that’s a robust motive right here, AMD may are available with actually aggressive MSRPs for the RX 9070 fashions. However, if maximizing earnings and return is greater up the precedence listing for RDNA 4, then we might get weightier than rumored asking costs.
Who is aware of, is actually the purpose, and the RX 9070 will solely be an RTX 5070 killer – assuming MLID’s serviette scribbling and GPU hypothesizing is in the best ballpark – if AMD costs it to be an RTX 5070 killer. Hopefully that’s the intent, and MLID suggests $499 and $649 (US) as attainable worth tags for a suitably aggressive transfer with the RX 9070 and its XT sibling respectively.
Beforehand, there have been hopes of a sub-$500 worth for the RX 9070, but when efficiency does form up something like as urged right here, there’s no motive AMD would want to dip decrease than the talked about $499. And once more, this comes again to my fear that AMD may be at liberty to simply push pricing tougher than initially meant, maybe, if the RX 9070 fashions are outmuscling the RTX 5070s on this vein.